Friday, September 12, 2008

And The Best ECD Is...

Apparently the top brass at Lowe (not Ed Morris, the management guys) mentioned this poll at an all-staff meeting. And I suspect one or two other ECD's (hello Brian & Simon) may have had some kind of campaign going.

Respect to them.

This is a competitive business, and if you're not the kind of person who wants to win - even if it's just a stupid poll on a stupid blog - then you're in the wrong game.

Let's look at the results.


Jeremy Craigen wins. On sheer consistent quality of work, that seems fair.

You could make a strong case too for either Richard Flintham, Robert Saville/Mark Waites, Tony Davidson/Kim Papworth, or Trevor Beattie. Don't forget that, as well as winning a shitload of awards, these guys have also built a business.

Some of the ECD's on this table have not been in the job long enough to really put their own stamp on an agency's output - e.g. Nick Gill, Mark Hunter, Russell Ramsey - so I suspect their vote might look different in a year's time.

I'd also love to see a separate 'value-added' table, like they do for schools. In other words, look at which ECD has improved their agency's work the most, or done the best work relative to the talent at their disposal.

That will have to be for another time I guess.

Previous poll results:
How Happy Are You With Your Agency?
Who Do You Prefer To Date?
What's Better - Small Agency Or Big Agency?
Is It The Client Or The Agency Who Makes The Work Good?
Why Is Fallon's Print Not As Good As Their TV?
Is Dave Trott's Thinking Still Relevant?
Which Brand Would You Most LikeTo Work On?
What Do Scamp Readers Do For A Living?
What Time Do You Leave Work?
Does Juan Earn One Million Pounds A Year?
How Much Do You Earn?
What Do You Think Of Our Trade Rag?
Should A Creative Look Creative?
Ad Of The Year 2007
Do Difficult People Do The Best Work?
Who Is Responsible For Ineffectiveness?
Your Personal Success Record
Which Department Is The Most Insane?
What Music Do You Listen To While Working?
What Time Do You Get In?
Who Drinks The Most?
Press v Online
Success Or Glory?
Is Reading Blogs A Waste Of Time?
What's Your Job Satisfaction Level?
What's The Best Kind Of Festive Greeting?
Ad Of The Year 2006
What's Your Favourite Medium To Work In?
Agency Of The Year 2006
Which Department Is The Most Overpaid?

31 comments:

Anonymous said...

trevor has never won a pencil.

i also like the way you pussy foot around other lack luster performances.

but moving on, i'd have thought that the most interesting result was the amount of ex DDB (and current) that top the list?

kind of proves the place was a good breeding ground for good creative directors. present company excepted ;)

Anonymous said...

'Apparently Ed Morris urged everyone at an all-staff meeting to vote for him. And I suspect one or two other ECD's (hello Brian & Simon) may have had some kind of campaign going too.

Respect to them.'

That's a weird one. 'A couple of creative directos bumped their figures up beyond where they should be by coercing staff into corrupting this poll'

How does that deserve respect?

I have more respect for someone like Paul Brazier who didn't seem to care that so few of his large department think he's worth voting for. At least he just does things his way. Who would you like more, the bloke who goes scampering around rigging the vote or one who probably doesn't even use the internet?

Anonymous said...

What about Jonathan Burley? You didn't mention him.

Is it because you are slightly resentful of Ed, Brian & Simon?

Similar age to you. All worked at BMP like you. All considerably more successful than you.

Let me know when you make ECD...

Scamp said...

Woah there...

No one was coerced.

And 'asking people to vote for you' is NOT the same thing as 'rigging the vote'.

Ed Morris's tactics were surely more Barack Obama than Robert Mugabe.

Anonymous said...

to be fair, their departments probably voted for them because they like them and are loyal.

i reckon the likes of trevor and others probably got votes from placement teams who reckon they're great without actually working for them.

and craigan probably got votes from all the ex ddb guys who used to work with him and are now ECD's them selves.

Scamp said...

12.32 you are right, I have worked with those guys, and they are more successful than me.

Not sure how old they are, but they do have more experience than me in the business.

By the time I have as much experience as them, I will be delighted if I have achieved as much.

Drop me your e-mail address and I'll send you an 'I told you so'.

Anonymous said...

by then, there wont be such a thing called email.

Scamp said...

You may be right. Better tell me your name then, I'd hate for us to lose touch.

Anonymous said...

Ha!

Anonymous said...

Yeah, Scamp. How do you cope with your Cannes Grand Prix and other lions, D&AD award and nominations, best poster of the year, best press ad of the year, being a CD at BBH? And running the biggest blog in advertising?

You must cry yourself to sleep at night wondering where it all went wrong.

Scamp said...

Thanks, Mum. You tell 'em!

Anonymous said...

12.28

Have you ever worked to Paul Brazier?

Could the reason no one's voted for him.

Anonymous said...

I would have voted for Strawberry Scott

Anonymous said...

re 1.46 pm

I used to work for Paul Brazier and I'd have voted for him if I hadn't been away this week.

Surely Ed Morris didn't actually urge people to vote for him, i mean really.

Anonymous said...

i was a bit surprised at the mother guys only getting 30 votes, i kind of expected more.

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Anonymous said...

Anon 12.28:

"I have more respect for someone like Paul Brazier who didn't seem to care that so few of his large department think he's worth voting for. At least he just does things his way. Who would you like more, the bloke who goes scampering around rigging the vote or one who probably doesn't even use the internet?"

What a marvellously backhanded compliment. Paul Brazier's department don't think much of him and he doesn't use the internet. Don't you realise you're making him look like an unpopular boss who's doing his job badly? Surely that's not the case. Can someone from AMV step in and defend him?

Anonymous said...

A fewt of the CD's on the list have only recently taken up their positions, surely the pole is a little bit flawed and unfair on the newcomers?

Anonymous said...

A few of the CD's on the list have only recently taken up their positions. Surely the pole is a little bit flawed and unfair on the newcomers?

Anonymous said...

An early anonymous said "What about Jonathan Burley? You didn't mention him." According to your poll Jonathan came 4th, beating the likes of Beattie, Flintham and Davidson/Papworth.

Surely he deserves a mention. The man's doing a wonderful job at Leo's...

Anonymous said...

The Burley thing is obviously bullshit. Leo Burnett don't produce anyhting good. He does write the best private views though.

Anonymous said...

if you like over the top, try-to-hard self promotion that is.

9.12 you're getting your anons mixed up.

But interestingly no one from amv has stepped forward.

Anonymous said...

12.15 - trevor has won a pencil. he chucked it in the thames.

Anonymous said...

Trevor's pencil was for special effects, so it wasn't a proper pencil. No wonder he chucked it in the Thames.

Scamp said...

I do find Jonathan Burley's Private Views pretty sound. But I don't know much about him, or his work. Probably I should. Is he good then?

Anonymous said...

Yeah, what's Burley done? Can anyone name a Burley ad? And come on AMV, the silence is deafening.

Anonymous said...

Robbie Saville and Marky Waites all day for me, they're maintained a high level for a long long time, then you'd have to say Jeremy Craigen.

For new stuff, gotta be Tony and Kim and then Dickie Flintham.

Anonymous said...

jon burley has done some great ads in the past, with his old partner ian williamson he did lots of the good tango work in the late 90s and that dark judderman campaign for metz. and he's only just taken over at leos, so give him a chance before you get the knives out.

Scamp said...

An internet search reveals he did Tango 'Megaphone', Pot Noodle 'Posh Noodle' and Metz 'Judderman', among others. That's some pretty good shit right there.

Agree it's far too early to judge him by Leo's current output.

Anonymous said...

Exactly Scamp, Jon's done some fantastic stuff. His partner Jim's a clever boy too, Blackcurrant Tango and all that. As my CDs, I can honestly say that I've learnt a great, great deal from them. Jon is incredibly perceptive, fair and motivating and is getting the best out of every single team here. He knows what Leo Burnett should be, and that's definitely not another Mother (as our previous ECD attempted, dear of him). And unbelievably we've actually started winning pitches. He's laying extremely solid foundations, and soon I'm pretty confident the creative output will start getting noticed too. Which is no small feat for a big old unit like Leo's.