Friday, August 01, 2008

Sauce Poll

Here's the result of last week's poll:

Bit surprised about the downer you all have on big agencies. Is it just that the word big means bad? Personally I like big agencies. The photocopiers usually work, and there's plenty of different accounts to have a go at. Medium-sized I like too. Not keen on the small Agency. If you don't get on with someone, it's a problem - you're around them the whole time. Whereas in bigger places you can easily seek out folk you like and not see ones you don't.

As it's Summer, this week's poll is even more frivolous than usual.

I'm asking: Who do you most prefer to date? A supposedly complicated Creative type? Or does the intellectual cut-and-thrust of a relationship with a Planner suit you best? Perhaps the people skills and expense account of a Suit works for you. Or do you find the organisational skills + short skirts in a TV dept. the ideal combo?

Vote now, in the right hand column of this blog.

Previous poll results:
Is It The Client Or The Agency Who Makes The Work Good?
Why Is Fallon's Print Not As Good As Their TV?
Is Dave Trott's Thinking Still Relevant?
Which Brand Would You Most LikeTo Work On?
What Do Scamp Readers Do For A Living?
What Time Do You Leave Work?
Does Juan Earn One Million Pounds A Year?
How Much Do You Earn?
What Do You Think Of Our Trade Rag?
Should A Creative Look Creative?
Ad Of The Year 2007
Do Difficult People Do The Best Work?
Who Is Responsible For Ineffectiveness?
Your Personal Success Record
Which Department Is The Most Insane?
What Music Do You Listen To While Working?
What Time Do You Get In?
Who Drinks The Most?
Press v Online
Success Or Glory?
Is Reading Blogs A Waste Of Time?
What's Your Job Satisfaction Level?
What's The Best Kind Of Festive Greeting?
Ad Of The Year 2006
What's Your Favourite Medium To Work In?
Agency Of The Year 2006
Which Department Is The Most Overpaid?

44 comments:

Anonymous said...

first comment....

fuck yeah!

I prefer big places.

Anonymous said...
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Anonymous said...

hi freddie

c said...

I get planners but dating creatives ... ouff. there are a lot of dogs in our ranks.

[the exception proves the rule]

Anonymous said...

Rumour has it Mr Clean at F***** put some pressure on Ben and he had to shut down Lunar's blog.

The morale of the story: never criticise juniors or bad adverts directed by shane meadows.

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Anonymous said...

Easy. The one with the biggest tits!

Anonymous said...

Scamp,

why the hell have you removed my post but decided to keep 5.07pm????

It makes me fell physically sick that someone thinks that is funny.

What an awful, awful person.

Anonymous said...

Yet again you're surprised at the results of one of your polls? You shouldn't be. It's just more evidence that you're invariably wrong - about anything to do with advertising that is. What did you say about Dave Trott? That you disagree with about 80% of what he says? Again, it's just demonstrates how you're always wrong - because Dave is always right.

Anyway... I agree with the previous comment. The comment of 5.07pm is a fucking disgrace. As are you for keeping it on here while censoring others. Either have *complete* free speech or get your moral compass oiled.

Anonymous said...

The post at 5.07 is a fucking disgrace indeed, scum.

Can't believe you chose not to remove it Scamp, won't be visiting this blog again that's for sure.

Anonymous said...

I'm sure Scamp is in tears now, anon 7.07.

I actually find more offensive 9.41 pm. He should have used the word SHIT in a post any two of this words: fallon, shane meadows or asda.

Scamp said...

Very happy to explain, 5.25.

You wrote "5.07 is a cunt."

What 5.07 wrote may be offensive to some or even many people. But his intention was to be witty, whereas yours was purely to abuse.

That's why I deleted your comment and not his.

It's in line with the policy I set out in the top right hand corner of the blog.

Anonymous said...

So Simon,

you found the disgusting disabled comments to be witty…

I’m splitting my fucking sides here, how hilarious. Not.

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Anonymous said...

How the FUCK is what 5.07 wrote witty in any way? Someone explain, because I think we're all missing the joke.

Anonymous said...

I’m embarrassed for you Scamp, to condone such a vile comment in any way makes you as bad as that arsehole.

n to the h said...

gotta be account handlers...

"I ain't saying she's a golddigger, but she ain't messing with no broke n.."

Scamp said...

Let me put it another way.

If I was managing a venue, I wouldn't remove a comedian from the stage, even if many in the audience found his act offensive. That would be censorship.

But if a heckler stood up and repeatedly called the comedian "a cunt", I would ask him to leave.

The issue is not whether I find the comedian amusing or not. The issue is "what is the intention of the person speaking?" Is it primarily to amuse, or purely to abuse?

That's how I judge it. I'm sorry if you don't like the policy, but I hope you'll agree that it's based on more than mere whim, and is applied with consistency.

Anonymous said...

comments about the work... not people?

You removed my comment a while back and you're fine with the anti-juan comments.

Ben said...

I thought it was pretty funny.

I think it was the byeeeeeee xxxxx that was most amusing due to its incongruous juxtaposition.

That doesn't mean to say that the more prissy amongst you are wrong. You may not have noticed, but humour is quite subjective.

Anonymous said...

Simon, does that mean I could post some witty little ditties about blacks, asians, jews etc…

Or is it just mocking the disabled that’s ok?

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Scamp said...

9.29 - I allow anti-Juan or anti-anyone comments as long as they are not obscene.

9.38 - I don't know. Write it and I'll take a look.

But if you look closely at 5.07's language (I'm very interested in language, always have been and especially at the moment since I'm reading Steven Pinker's "The Language Of Thought") it's not a clear-cut case.

First of all, he's talking about a fictional character. That's not as bad as bad-mouthing a real person.

Second of all, he's expressing a weird kind of affection for her. That's not as bad as outright abuse.

Third of all, by giving two competing descriptions of her, he kind of undermines himself.

I don't know. Maybe I'm reading too much into it.

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Anonymous said...

we have a midget working at our place, and there's a guy in finance that everyone has questions about. it's our summer party on thursday (school disco theme) i might make sure their paths cross.

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Anonymous said...

10.36 am

Ben?

Anonymous said...

So it's the WAY something is said, not actually what IS said that matters?

Bit hard to convey tone in the written word unless there's context or you know the person. If you said Bush is a simpleton in a comedy club that's fine.
Say it in Congress and I think it becomes a different matter.

Anonymous said...

Scamp

You really do come across as an obnoxious, pompous tit. Is that intentional?

Rather than simply choosing to remove a post that is clearly vile and offensive you chose to cause a bit of controversy to fuel your ego.

Maybe you’d feel differently if you had a child or a family member with Downs Syndrome.

Scamp said...

Clearly the comment offended you. But his intention was not primarily to offend. And that's what I judge a comment on.

I'm sorry you don't like the policy, but that's the policy. Surely it doesn't need any further explanation, does it? I'm just repeating myself now.

50P said...

Did you know that Harv is a midget?

Harry said...

I have a relative who's got Down's Syndrome and I think the joke's very funny.

I'd rather people didn't try and decide what is a reasonable subject for a joke on my behalf.

Humour=tragedy+time.

Twat.

Anonymous said...

I found it as funny as toothache.

Anonymous said...

i found it as funny as scamps slag of a whore mum who i fuck up the shitter (joking) the dirty fucking slag
(joking)

Scamp said...

That last comment actually does contravene my policy, because the addition of the word "joking" is not really sufficient to turn an abusive comment into a comedic one, is it?

Then again, I'm not sure your motivation in writing it actually was to be abusive... I'm guessing that it was the same as my motivation for not deleting it. Sheer glorious pedantry!

Anonymous said...

you should have just replied...DAD?

we were all waiting for it.

but you gave a proper reply...sigh.

Anonymous said...

My coment saying "The one with the biggest tits" was both hilarious and misogynistic. And sexist. Who's to say the planner or account man has to be a woman? It could be a male account man or planner.
And it's homophobic a bit isn't it? I don't know. All I know is it's hilarious and if you disagree with me, you are wrong.

Wal said...

oh, it's sometimes a fine line whether to delete a comment or no, how do you decide on those tough cases? do you ask scowling A.D.? i do ask jai :)

Anonymous said...

thanks for killing it wal.

Scamp said...

I did try to ask Scowling A.D. but he was busy. Thank God one of us is doing some work.

Anonymous said...

10.20am

Hello to all at AMV BBDO :)

Scamp said...

UPDATE. I've deleted all the comments on here relating to sex with people who have Down's Syndrome.

Although Google haven't informed me exactly which post on this blog caused the activation of their Hate Crimes division, the strength of feeling in the comments section here leads me to believe it was this one.

Although I stand by my original rationale for not deleting the comment, I have to accept that I am just a tenant here and although I can set the house rules to a certain extent, ultimately it's Google who own the place.

Now, please don't get me into trouble by posting any more hate crime. If you want to say something really rude, write it all down in a letter, and then tear it up. That's what my Grandma always advised.

Ramzi Yakob said...

Scamp mate - you've got a lot of whiney haters here who don't have the stones to post with an account.

I think you'd do us all a favour to purge your comments of these pussies and disable anonymous comments.

If you have something to say people, have the balls to say it with your name attached.

Charles Frith said...

Ramzi calls it straight. Lots of anonymous big cojones comments.