Tuesday, May 12, 2009

Do You Enjoy Shooting?


The Czech Republic (as seen from the minibus ferrying me between the hotel and the studio)



Another view of this beautiful country


Could you concentrate with this sitting in front of you all day?

Shoots, especially foreign shoots, are supposed to be the 'glamour side' of our job.

Are they?

41 comments:

Anonymous said...

for all juniors and people who can't get a job in glamourous ol' advertising, you really ought to stop whinging about shoots on foreign countries. biting our hands off.

TK Max said...

Not when a drunk elderly TV producer in her underwear knocks on your hotel room door at 1am, and whispers to you 'my husband and I have an understanding. What goes on tour stays on tour, can I come in'. And then proceeds to stick her tongue in your mouth.

Anonymous said...

Boring as bat shit.

I like to travel business class, but only transatlantic (you don't really get the benefit if you're only going to Europe). Lounges are generally shit, except Virgin's.

Hotels can be nice and ordering room service without worrying about the price is better.

Actual shooting is really fucking dull, even if you're shooting something amazing. Especially if you're shooting something amazing.

The downtime can be good if you're in LA or somewhere like that. Bleed expenses dry like an MP and save yourself a week's spending. Also, places where they don't speak english are great for faking receipts and getting poor cabbies to give you ten blank receipts for an extra kopek or dong.

Inklid said...

Think yourself lucky. I just spent 3 days shooting in Wandsworth. On one of those days, our screen was in the basement of the greasy spoon next dorr - just next to the overflowing toilet.

Miraculously though, it was still far better than sitting at my desk.

Anonymous said...

3 days in Lichtenstein shooting lawnmowers (German).

No fun. Apart from the fact that they
(The Lichtenstonians?) still didn't want to associate themselves with a German product.

The Lichtenstonians had great gardens though,immac.

Spent the downtime in a Novotel.

God. Boring as piss. Overseas shoots,
give me remote control via email any day.

Anonymous said...

Anon 3.38
Are you Arthur Kade?
www.arthurkade.com

Anonymous said...

Studio shoots make we want to loose the will to live. How can days go that slowly? No matter how interesting the thing you are shooting, sitting in a dark place looking at a monitor saps my will to live and since I quit smoking I don't even get to hang out outside and talk to the crew.
Locations can be fun and I have been lucky enought to see some amazing things in amazing places (Shooting in South Africa and Kenya). The piece that people who have never done them don't realise is that the exciting or interesting bits are intersperese with hours of sitting around, or travelling or just waiting for something to happen.
Still - its a whole lot better then being an accountant!

Anonymous said...

Snooooop Dog...

shmoke til your eyes get cataractsh...

Anonymous said...

OMG, I LOVE THAT GUMMY BEAR

G

Anonymous said...

Shoots are the best thing about our job.

Well, slight over-claim maybe, but they're still a welcome 'perk'.

5 star hotels. Free food. Free beer. Free sight-seeing holiday.

What's not to like about that?!

Anonymous said...

Hey TK Max,

That TV producer you mentioned, think she'd be up for freelance?

john w. said...

Yes, when I get the chance, 'cept now, all the bloody copywriters seem to want in on the action. The world has gone fuckin' mental.

Anonymous said...

Hey Scamp - hopefully you're staying at the Josef. It's not the best hotel in town but I think the best shoot hotel.

However - if anyone on this thread has better recommendations I'd love to hear them, as I said earlier - I spend far too much time here.

As far as shoots are concerned I love them. Especially the smelly Mercedes van that ferries agency around that always seems slightly lower in spec to the one the director, first and dp get to run around in.

Seriously, I've not only shot in Prague but Las Vegas, Buenos Aires, New York, LA, Stockholm, Seattle, Mexico and Acton - C'mon, what's not to love.

Anonymous said...

i dont know if its too late, but go and find a dish with a thing called "knödel" or ask for it ... they are massive and come sliced ... hope u had sum already :P

Anonymous said...

They're hard work when you're there. Glamorous in retrospect. I wish I was doing one now! Haven't done one in two years...

Anonymous said...

Without question, the most stressful part of our job.

Anonymous said...

They're great. Except night shoots.
I really don't like night shoots.
Especially in February in Europe.

Anonymous said...

all that hard work to get in to the glamourous ol' world and my first foreign shoot was 1 month after an agency-wide stop on business class travel. Grotty hotel for two weeks. mmmmm

Anonymous said...

K5 my good man, K5.
Makes Goldfingers look like the Blue Oyster.

Lubomir said...

You just wait, and wait, and wait till your feet start to hurt.

Than you go to the director like: Houston, we have a problem.

And he is like: Are you talking to me?!

And you are like: You can't handle the truth!!!

And he is like: …???

Meanwhile the fat boy eats all the candy, and all you have left is a dry wafer.

Ben said...

Play shag, marry or kill for hours on end.

Anonymous said...

vaguely remember shouting "stop it!" in a private booth in Goldfingers. shot in UK, South Africa, Italy, US, Czech Republic and Romania. Contemplated suicide in each location.

john w. said...

Who the eff said it was glamourous anyway? Who buys into that ridiculous notion? I suppose it all depends where you are coming from? I would have thought any City fan would be grateful to be anywhere in Europe?

Anonymous said...

I love shoots!

I'm still relatively Junior but I've been on seven already! All the Directors I've worked with weren't up to what I expected though. I knew I was better than them so I ended up telling them what to do.

It was worth it though as, to date, I've won to Creative Circle silvers, three D & AD nominations, and an IPA effectiveness award.

Can wait for my next shoot. I love the fact that you can eat as many peanuts from the mini-bar as you want & all of the strippers. Last time I sh*gged one of the runners too!

Anonymous said...

Depends on the director/production company...

john w. said...

Sometimes the kickback can leave bruising for some.

Anonymous said...

To Anon 3.38
HAHAHA! i wanna be like arthur kade. the american football films and the 'kade scale' are genius.

Anonymous said...

is the 11.44 post genuine? Or is it someone imitating an irritating little twerp for comic effect?

Anonymous said...

I don't go on shoots.

I am a digital creative.

Its the future.

Rocker Man said...

Hey! 11.44!!

Have a word with TK Max. Get the name of the old bird in her pants. Get her to sort you out.

Then come back here and let's see whether you're quite so cocksure. Reckon she'll eat your for breakfast.

And let us know when one of your "I knew I was better than them" directors punches you very hard. In the face.

Oh. You were just pulling our legs. Thank Christ for that.

TK Max said...

Re Rocker Man, sorry it was ten years ago. I meant to say 'she ate me at breakfast'. And she is probably in some old dears home right now thinking everyday is Christmas day!

Anonymous said...

Anon 11:44

all those awards and you're still mistaking 'to' for 'two'.

james said...

as a copywriter whos only been out of uni a year, ive been on about 4 shoots. with a graphic design background i consider myself perfectly capable and helpful on a shoot despite my label.

i just hope that nothing changes and im still invited to be part of this process in the years to come.

does anyone else think a copywriter should be welcome on a shoot?

Anonymous said...

Anon 1.34-

The answer to your initial question is 'yes'. I fail to see why I'm an 'Irritating little twerp'.
I'm simply commenting on my experiences of shoots to date.

Rocker Man-

Why would one of those Directors punch me in the face? I'm making their work better...

Anon 9.49-

What difference does my typo make? I've still won those 'two' awards regardless.

Anonymous said...

No complaining... my last shoot was in Slough.

Anonymous said...

Of course copywriters should be on shoots, if they want to be.

They write the ads and can have as much input into the visual side of things as the Art Director. At least thats how it works with us.

I've been on 3/3 shoots so far, but as others have said they can be fairly dull.

As an aside, i've noticed Art Directors rarely want to be involved with writing, unless it's a TV script. c*£ts.

Anonymous said...

yes, but only shooting in LA. shooting outside LA seems like a good idea but invariably the crews aren't as good. just not "on it". and the hotels and restaurants aren't as good elsewhere

(captcha = PHIMPL)

john w. said...

"I don't like to be around the set, it's not a great pleasure for me to be there. It's so fucking boring, and I get in the way." - William Goldman

Anonymous said...

anon 12:56

a typo is one thing, but the fact you also got the time of my post wrong in addition, means you lack attention to detail.

Anonymous said...

whether copywriters should or shouldn't be on shoots depends completely on the job in hand. There's absolutely no need for a copywriter to be on say a pure pack shot or product shoot. When my said AD is on 'glamorous shoots in the arse-end of london...i'm errr writing this

Banco said...

There's only one unwritten rule at our place: if you're going to come back from your exotic shoot location with a suntan, you'd better make sure you come back with a great ad...