Monday, March 31, 2008

CHI Pay


I didn't really want to post about this, because it's a bit tawdry.

But let's face it, this is what everyone is talking about this morning (along with 'Trucks').

What happened is that someone at CHI sent round an e-mail from a work placement PC with details of everyone's salaries. That's right. Everyone's.

It went round late at night, so I.T. managed to get it deleted before too many people had seen it.

But then the next day (Friday)... it was sent round again.

Personally I think the idea of the rogue hacker is almost more interesting than the details of everyone's wages, which are pretty much what you would expect.

Companies are notoriously secretive about pay - I've always thought it might be a good thing if they were open about everyone's salaries. St Luke's always were, and the effect on their morale was said to be very positive.

I wonder what effect it's having over at CHI...

103 comments:

Anonymous said...

Spill the beans!Who gets what? Please? I have no life.

Anonymous said...

Amazing!

You have to say Hornby deserves every penny,
but creatively...they haven't really done anything good yet, have they?
Given the amount of business they've won that's some achievement.
What's their best ad? or least worst?

Anonymous said...

(From someone in a production company)
Judging by the egotistical and insecure way that creatives are constantly slagging each other off, I'm sure this will have a very divisive effect on the creative department, if they have varying salaries (highly likely).
But I have found the creatives and producers at CHI to be some of the most level-headed and likeable agency folk around. So if any group can laugh it off, it's them
Most likely it's a hacked off creative (team) who've been refused a rise when their rivals got one.
Which makes them complete twats.

Anonymous said...

Is that you again Tom or Dave?
Using the old 'from a production company' alias?

Anonymous said...

Come on, someone must have a copy they can post!

Wonder if it was a disgruntled creative who done the deed?

Anonymous said...

No it's not 'Tom or Dave'. They work at SHOP, which is an agency.

Anonymous said...

Exactly anon 12.20 - the very fact that we can post anonymously means that the info should come up here at some point. Come on disgruntled creatives - post on Scamp today!

Anonymous said...

Scamp you say "pretty much what you would expect".

Have you seen the email?

I heard it went to BBH and WCRS as well.

jh said...

Judging figures without context is like judging tortoises sans shells.Pointless.
The matter is a private one, so please resist the temptation to spread personal details, i realise it's very tempting.

jh

Anonymous said...

I doubt very much it's anyone who's there, much more likely someone who's recently been shown the door, anyone know anyone who's left without a leaving card?

Anonymous said...

Any word on the lady who waters the plants?

Anonymous said...

jh... Is that you Hornby?

Have you been spending too much on useless account men?

Anonymous said...

you'd have to be privy to the info in the first place wouldn't you?

doesn't sound like anything normally shared with creatives?

kate moss said...

I took in over 10 million last year.

Men's cocks that is.

Mainly up the arse, but I did manage a few in the nostrils when they weren't packed with the old self-raising.

It's fun being me.

Anonymous said...

anon 12.21, Tom or Dave come on this blog a couple of weeks ago pretending to be from a production company so they could tell everyone how great their crappy chocolate bar ad was.

They kind of wrote in your semi-literate, pissed off tone. That's why 12.19 thought it might be them/you again.

Anonymous said...

You were worried about doing something tawdry?

How do you walk through the doors of BBH every morning, my old Scampster?

Anonymous said...

The figures are starting to come in over on loser BBDO's blog.

Anonymous said...

12:19, I'm 12:13.
I really am from a well-known production company. I'm not a creative.
You seem like yet another bitter and obsessive creative who probably can't be arsed to watch our reels (which I am bitter and obsessive about) unless I take you for lunch. I'm going to make a snap judgement that you are a cock.
Ta ta.
xx

And thank you, I am semi-literate, yes. You are very astute.

Anonymous said...

Ooh..clever Tom & Dave.

Putting a girly 'Ta Ta xx' to throw everyone off the scent.

Sad.

Anonymous said...

I am a girl.

Anonymous said...

anon 1:09

don't bite the hand that feeds you.

you've probably just changed the mind on a lot of people ever watching another reel from a 'well known' production company again just in case they have the misfortune of it being helpfully put into the dvd player by such an unpleasant person as yourself.

Anonymous said...

So is it only me that's not seen this email? And if so how do I rectify that!

Anonymous said...

Dear 1.20,

Yeah i tought that was a bit smelly.
I thought it was a bloke and then it ended like a girl?

Who are they?

Anonymous said...

I wouldn't call Mustard a well-known production company.

Anonymous said...

or Sonny

Mr Kite said...

re anon 1.23pm

I'm a girl as well (when I get my new passport through).

I'm also a victim of theft.

My old cock in a jar, that looks like septic Lobster Bisque, was stolen from my rowing boat on the serpentine yesterday, I'm distraught, its like loosing a member,
a member of your family.

Anonymous said...

She says she hates creatives yet wastes her day reading this kind of creatives naval gazing bollocks.
it doesn't add up.

Anonymous said...

Stop the arguing... where's the important stuff??? Where's the email?

Anonymous said...

Yes!
We demand the list!


Also the outing of the gil/?boy from Mustard/Sonny!Shop!

Tipton tipton Ffyphh said...

I like the way girls (they're always girls) from production companies put a reel on, then talk through the entire thing.
Having said that, girls do talk a lot anyway so it's not fair to blame them.

Anonymous said...

Hello it's 12:13 again.
I'm neither boy nor girl. Animal, vegetable or mineral.
You know that big black thing in 2001 (famous film, kids)? That's me.

And I don't work in advertising. I AM advertising.
xx

Anonymous said...

stop calling creatives you useless bunch of retard reps. its so annoying. if they do good ads we would have seen them and the only time we would want to use the useless twats you're punting is when everyone else says no.

and sitting behind us laughing at an ad you have seen 1000 times is so fake.

get a proper job.

Anonymous said...

1.45, your arrogance is laughed at by older, more successful creatives and particularly by your producers. (a load of us had this chat on Saturday night, as we often do).
Many reps are idiots.
But you should make it your business to watch reels.
That way you can gain 'inspiration' and find the talent that is willing to work on a £50K budget (budgets dictate what you can make, we should discuss this later, as I know that doesn't make sense to you right now).

Also, these directors are the future greats. Is there no interest in finding new talent? Or can you really not be arsed?

Here's to your stagnating career.

Anonymous said...

'proper job'

creative.

rep.

discuss.

Anonymous said...

ha ha 1.45 cant prove hes not crap because then he'd give himself away!!

Anonymous said...

1:54
i dont need to look at shitty production companies reels to find inspiration.
bet you work at one of those really shit ones that just get pack shot jobs.

Anonymous said...

I think the people arguing are probably from CHI trying to diflect the attention from the point in hand... erm... the email! Where can we see it!

Anonymous said...

WHERE'S THE SPREADSHEET YOU HALFWITS!?

Alf

Anonymous said...

All the PAs are on £50k, producers £150k, creatives £200K and CDs £1m just like Juan.

Anonymous said...

'copy'
'paste'

duhhhhhhh

Anonymous said...

I don't think 2:02 spotted the sarcasm in 'inspiration'.

Anyway, whatever. Start typing the fucking names and figures you halfwits!

George said...

I work as a production company rep, and I think you are all great!

Anonymous said...

a lot of the reps really know their shit and are v nice but a lot are shit. nice tits though

Lunar BBDO said...

Being married to the person who takes the reels round from Sonny (she's actually the exec producer, and trying to convince you of Fredrik Bond's skills is just one small part of her job) I can confirm that:

a) She doesn't have time to comment on here.
b) Her reels are excellent.
c) Her tits are also excellent.
b) Everything about her is excellent.

http://www.sonnylondon.com/

Anonymous said...

re 12.21.

If 'Shop is an agency' why is it called Shop?

Bit confusing isn't it?


Does anyone know if there are any Shops out there called Agency?

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Anonymous said...

i show reels (well, rather more than that, but heh, I'll just get shot down) and don't have tits.

what should i do?

Anonymous said...

Can anyone post it somewhere and send us the link? Upload to yousendit.com or something?

Anonymous said...

I try to keep up with you guys,
but can someone explain
what or who shop and Chi are?
I feel like i missed something.

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Anonymous said...

2.02 - Maybe not inspiration, but you could use some help with spelling and grammar. Always room for improvement...

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Anonymous said...

Shop is a smaller agency that has the piss taken out of it by snobbish creatives in 'proper' agencies.

CHI (Clemmow Hornby Inge) are a major (nearly a proper) agency that have just been bought out and the guys that run it have nice suits. And very expensive cars.

Neither of them are BBH.

Thank fuck.

Anonymous said...

2:44, have you ever touched a 'lady'?

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Anonymous said...

I work in a 'proper' agency yet don't
take the piss out of shop.
Perhaps i should start, here goes-
GREEN FLAG ADS. BORING? YES!

Anonymous said...

woahhh, it's a post-deletion-a-rama.
yeaaahhh

Anonymous said...

Love the southward trend the comments have taken. Try the veal. Be nice to reps. Where's that email?

Anonymous said...

Both ad agencies.
Both produce shite.
One is big,CHI, it produces shite for a lot of well known brands.
The other,SHOP, is small and produces shite for a lot of unknown brands.

Anonymous said...

gravy train

Anonymous said...

Whoever invents 'remote delete' email will be a millionaire. Or in Bill Gates case, more Billioned.

Anonymous said...

True.Shopboy.

Anonymous said...

Yes yes, but show us the money! and the names!

Anonymous said...

Can't we dis McCanns or VCCP instead? They deserve it.
These chaps at Shop sound lovely. And we shouldn't pick on the littluns.

AAnnndddd...WHERE THE CUMTING NORA is that CHI list??

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Anonymous said...

just give us the salary stuff.

James Feess said...

well, are the salaries pretty similar to what one would expect? Or are some people getting paid silly money?

Anonymous said...

'gaylords'?
who the hell over 11 says gaylord?
christ on a bike, this bigoted like scrote writes ads?? this is so depressing.

Scamp, please 'administrate'...though I'm sure you were going to.
ta.

Anonymous said...

'gaylord alert'

Rupert said...

Heavens to Betsy!
Now Scamp is getting homophobic as well as impudent.

Let'spull ourselves together chaps,
let's be a community with a jolly well community spirit.

Anonymous said...

Can we be a non-bigoted community that posts a link to the fecking email??

good lord mccannoncock said...

Shop started as a creative's wet dream: Campbell, Doyle and Dye. Two of the best-ever print creatives and one of the best-ever TV.

The early work was great with Mercedes Lucky Star and Merrydown/Adnams etc winning many plaudits.

Then they took on Tom and Dave and (coincidentally or not) Dave Dye got ousted and the work became pretty average.

Mercedes TV became poor, Green Flag is/was dreadful, they've lost Mercedes, new versions of Adnams and that whisky brand they do are pale imitations of the early work. Walt left. It seems Tom and Dave now 'run' it creatively and not very well by the looks of things.

And those, my friends, are the facts.

Anonymous said...

Nobody actually has the email do they?

Anonymous said...

surprise they pay anyone there when they come up with rubbish like that talking cats crap for teletext.

but honestly what surprises does anyone expect,it'd be the same at any of our agencies, some too much some not enough?

Anonymous said...

I work at BBH and I didn't receive the CHI email.

Though our whole email network was down for a couple of hours this morning for some unknown reason....

Anonymous said...

stop being a bunch of nosey twats

Anonymous said...

If anyone has the email, for crying out loud, GIVE US DETAILS! We demand to know.

Anonymous said...

its all bullshit!

now get back to the bitching!

Mr Kite said...

I bought my new Honey pot in a shop.

Anonymous said...

I saw 2 police cars and a plain clothes jobby outside CHI just now.

Anonymous said...

Yeah well just think of what the bloke in the BT ad has achieved. He's patiently built trust with the eldest son, not pressuring him or trying to be his 'Dad' and now look - they're as thick as thieves and go to the barbers together and everything. I for one say 'hats off' to him, a model parent if ever there was one. Let's just hope he doesn't decide to kill them all one day when he gets a big bill in.

rjhayter said...

I's not tawdry, it's fun. Anyone got the mail?

Anonymous said...

This seems to have just degenerated into something other than CHI salaries. Fuck it.

poo poo, wee wee, tits and bums.

Anonymous said...

Too right!

It was getting unseemly.

Lets get back to trying uncover the personal details of the staff at CHI.

Good shout, dickhead.

Anonymous said...

Quim is a nice word to use.

mm said...

fcuk CHI salaries, how much do BBH pay you to write this blog scamp?

Scamp said...

Nada.

Anonymous said...

he doesn't write it, we do

Anonymous said...

re 5.08pm

thats the funniest thing I've read in ages, bravo.

Anonymous said...

get a life

Anonymous said...

Ad gossip is the same shit everywhere. Even overseas.
show the email or reset the visit counter.

Anonymous said...

re: anon 11.07
good of you to recognise my comedy genius

Anonymous said...

I'm beginning to think this email doesn't even exist...

Anonymous said...

I'd let it lie and get on with the rest of your life if I were you

Anonymous said...

Where is the list? C'mon guys, someone must have it. Share please. Or has someone already posted it, but scamp has deleted the comment?!

Anonymous said...

http://www.brandrepublic.com/News/798868/Police-investigate-CHI-salary-details-email/

Anonymous said...

That creative was comedically stupid/naive, etc.

Anonymous said...

the creative who sent it on must be bricking it!

Anonymous said...

why would it be a creative?

Anonymous said...

Read the article, asshat.